{"id":9456,"date":"2022-10-20T16:38:29","date_gmt":"2022-10-20T21:38:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.twocities.org\/?p=9456"},"modified":"2022-10-20T16:38:29","modified_gmt":"2022-10-20T21:38:29","slug":"church-size-too-big-to-succeed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.twocities.org\/?p=9456","title":{"rendered":"CHURCH SIZE: TOO BIG TO SUCCEED?"},"content":{"rendered":"

From my newsletter, “Moore’s Musings”:<\/strong><\/p>\n

For the first time I am taking a departure from the regular format for \u201cMoore\u2019s Musings.\u201d In light of my previous comments about \u201cmegachurches,\u201d I wanted to list some of my other convictions about church size. <\/strong><\/p>\n

Instead of sending this out two weeks after the previous \u201cMoore Musings\u201d I took an additional two weeks to gather my thoughts. Preaching regularly at a wonderful church outside of Austin also limited my time a bit in working on this edition. <\/strong><\/p>\n

I would not characterize my thoughts here as tentative, but perhaps provisional is an apt word to use. Tentative is too weak, but provisional underscores that my thoughts are still open to further reflection and correction.<\/strong><\/p>\n

I learn much from those who disagree with me, especially those who are gracious in doing so! By all means offer your pushback, thoughts, or questions. You can contact me either by email or post your comments on my blog at <\/strong>www.twocities.org<\/strong><\/a>. Your comments via email may be included in future blasts, but I won\u2019t give your name unless you approve. <\/strong><\/p>\n

Away we go\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n

I have been thinking about the size of churches for many years. Since I have ministered in small, medium, and big churches, it seemed time to make my views more public. I believe the topic merits more attention than it gets. I should add that the recent scandals in several megachurches, as awful as they have been, didn\u2019t influence my thinking below.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Here then are a series of miscellaneous and compressed<\/em> thoughts on church size:<\/strong><\/p>\n

*I no longer believe the size of larger churches (somewhat<\/em> arbitrarily set as 300 or more regular attenders) is neutral.<\/strong><\/p>\n

It is common to hear the argument that the size of a church is neutral. Size is likened to a baseball bat. As the logic goes, it is stated that there is nothing intrinsically wrong with a baseball bat. Yes, you can kill someone with a baseball bat, but manufacturers like Louisville Slugger didn\u2019t have that kind of slugging in mind when they made their bats.<\/strong><\/p>\n

I think size not only can but does present unnecessary obstacles that make being a body of believers much more challenging. How can a large group of people fulfill all the \u201cone another\u201d commands of Scripture when it is easy to be anonymous?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I have adapted the typical baseball bat analogy to highlight my concerns about big churches. Imagine having a huge<\/em> baseball bat. Many are impressed by the massive bat. It effortlessly crushes homers. The person wielding the bat is very nice. Many on the field are in awe of the bat and the batters that are privileged to use it. Bats that big would change the complexion of the game we know as baseball. It would no longer be baseball as we have come to understand and<\/em> love the game. So yes, I question whether thousands gathered together in the same place are still really \u201cdoing church.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

*I am keenly aware that small churches can have big problems, while big churches may have smaller problems. I have observed both. This undeniable reality doesn\u2019t affect my concerns about big churches. Read on to see why.<\/strong><\/p>\n

*Small churches can have autocratic leaders who do much damage. Big churches can and do have autocratic leaders, but small churches may feel more vulnerable to tolerating a dictatorial leader since more qualified pastors are unlikely to be attracted to ministry in a small church. I have wondered aloud on different occasions why pastors generally (I know a few exceptions) feel \u201ccalled by God\u201d to move to a bigger church.<\/strong><\/p>\n

*Because of their size, and even more so if the church is not part of a denomination, smaller churches can get isolated and so make themselves more vulnerable to ungodly influences and unbiblical fads.<\/strong><\/p>\n

*I do have concerns about house churches, many times an overreaction to bigger churches. I have been very involved in both big and small churches, but never participated in a house church. My concerns about house churches mainly revolve around the problems of autonomy and their vulnerability to self-appointed leaders who are not qualified to lead. I have heard a few horror stories. I know there are some healthy examples of house churches, but I think their independence presents obstacles to the best kind of spiritual growth.<\/strong><\/p>\n

*With small churches you don’t have the structural issues that impede being known. A small church is not magically healthy simply because it’s small, but at least you don’t have to fight the structural challenges that come with bigness.<\/strong><\/p>\n

*Small churches don\u2019t have structural impediments to reflecting the family ethos mentioned in the Bible. Like the previous point, small churches don\u2019t automatically do this just because they are small. They must have godly leaders who are committed to functioning as a family. In some healthy small churches, I have seen all ages mixing in an organic way. I have never seen it done very well in bigger churches. In bigger churches you find specialty ministries that sequester the<\/strong> old from the young and vice versa. It\u2019s why you have the sixty-plus old folks in Sunday school classes with names like the \u201cSunset\u201d class.<\/strong><\/p>\n

*Speaking of specialties, Johns Hopkins University was the first research<\/em> university<\/em> in America. Many separate departments with their own specializations. Many good things have come from specialization. With respect to Johns Hopkins, their early adoption of more rigorous research methods in medicine thanks to the inspiration of European scholars, yielded many benefits.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Specialization, for good and for ill, has affected all areas of life including<\/em> the church<\/em>. It is why we put modifiers in front of pastor: senior, executive, associate, adult education, discipleship, evangelism, youth, and more. These areas of specialization dull us to the indispensable character qualities all<\/em> pastors should have. C.S. Lewis wrote how modifiers can kill important words:<\/strong><\/p>\n

As long as gentleman has a clear meaning, it is enough to say that So-and-so is a gentleman.<\/strong> When we begin saying that he is a \u201creal gentleman\u201d or \u201ca true gentleman\u201d or \u201ca gentleman in the truest sense\u201d we may be sure that the word has not long to live\u2026[1]<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n

*Individualism is a big problem in our culture and in the church. Mature Christian growth does not come from being individualistic. Where is it easier to hide and be the person you want to be: a big church where you can be anonymous or a small one where your presence or lack thereof is noticeable?<\/strong><\/p>\n

*Big churches usually have a hodgepodge of unrelated\u00a0ministries. A church I served in for five years had an annual \u201cministry fair.\u201d About seventy distinct ministries of the church were offered as possible avenues for growth. We in leadership pretty much left it up to everyone to figure out where they should get involved. That kind of chaos with multiple choices does not produce mature Christians.<\/strong><\/p>\n

*I Peter 5 assumes the leadership knows the congregation and the congregation knows the leadership. At the big church I was at in the 1990s, the elders realized the body largely did not trust them. What to do? They decided to be greeters for a few weeks so people could get to know them. I kid you not. The relationships between the elders and the body did not improve.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Even if the elders are qualified men, how is it possible for them to know and be known by thousands?<\/strong><\/p>\n

*In the pastoral epistles, Paul assumes that one who is engaged in pastoral ministry is an elder. The interesting thing is that it is difficult to find \u201cBible-believing\u201d churches where every pastor is an elder. I have scoured hundreds of church web sites. When all the pastors and elders are listed, it is almost never the case that all pastors are elders. Why is this if Paul assumes that all pastors are elders? I already knew the answer but decided to ask a few biblical scholars and pastors. The answer: the elders are typically afraid that the pastors will wield too much influence on the body. Fear of a voting bloc is the way some put it. And yes, it seems bigger churches are more prone to this fear.<\/strong><\/p>\n

*Larger churches tend to fast track membership. The large numbers seem to demand it. We had four weeks at the big church I served. I told the elders that an unprincipled Mormon or Jehovah\u2019s Witness could become a member at our church. This certainly could happen at any size church, but when you have large numbers wanting to be members you feel the pressure to fast track the process.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Much more could be said, but this is already too long. If you have read this far, please receive my thanks, and do consider offering a comment or question.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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[1]<\/a> From C.S. Lewis\u2019s essay, \u201cThe Death of Words,\u201d As quoted on www.cslewis.com\/language-and-the-meaning-of<\/a>-words.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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